The last word on it?

Hello Dear Reader,

A bit of politics, feel free to stop reading and come back tomorrow when it’s just thrift)

So there we are, the people have spoken and have chosen to leave the EU. That’s democracy and the will of the people. You’ve left messages of concern about our future in France and I thought I’d try to answer as best I can in one hit.

We don’t know the future. I can guess what won’t happen. I don’t think the Dutch, the Germans, or the Spanish are going to throw people out of their homes and repatriate them. Or at least, I hope not.

It’s a question of global economics I suppose. In difficult times, when ordinary people are struggling to get by it’s easy to blame immigration, numbers of people and feel a genuine concern about over crowding. Schools have children who can’t speak English, Latvian builders are cheaper than locals, no one can get social housing, rents are higher than wages, the roads are so full with cars they’re little more than car parks!

Politicians don’t have any trust, I certainly don’t have a lot of trust in them but instead of people turning on the people who are stitching us up, they find someone easier to blame. In these difficult times, political unrest by its nature creates economic unrest so things will more than likely get worse before they get better. If they get worse, the blame on immigrants could get worse.

Let’s face it, leaving the EU will not get your choice of schools, magic up more school places, build more hospitals, improve the roads, reduce train fares, make homes affordable, get you a mortgage, remove university fees, get you a doctors appointment, get an NHS dentist or reduce prices in the shops. Even without the current payments to the EU, I don’t trust a government not to use the money they would have handed over to the EU to be used for tax cuts, continued austerity and maybe even bolstering the coffers to compensate for the reduction in revenue. If nothing gets better and there is no investment in the NHS, education and social infrastructure then the lack of community cohesion could call for charging non-nationals for health, education, visas and require greater supervision instead of integration then other EU countries could follow suit. That tit for tat, you’ve made our folk have work visas and pay for healthcare so your nationals have to do so here.

We are ten years off moving to France. I’m sure there will be a way whether we live there under a visa system or have the right to live there but have no other rights such as  being able to vote in local elections. France, like the UK could become more right wing and when that happens then what ever you do, don’t be old, or disabled, or an immigrant or poor as everyone else will think it’s your fault when the roads have potholes! (Not making sweeping statements but we all know that sadly they media love to stir up hatred as it sells papers!)

Politics has been shaken this week and rightly so as it needed shaking. I hope expats in mainland Europe will be ok and I hope my lovely Polish dentist and her colleagues keep my teeth in good order for years to come, that the Italians keep serving us amazing coffee and the French chefs keep feeding us. (Just as an example of how our fellow Europeans with free access to live and work across Europe.)

Thanks for your comments and concerns, all we can do is adapt as our new world unravels.

Tomorrow, back to thrift and this is my last word on the matter xxx

Until tomorrow,

Love Froogs xxxx

 

 

 

 

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33 thoughts on “ The last word on it?

  1. Good post! Here in the States, our politics are much the same this year. I will add that I know plenty of people of all political persuasions here who complain bitterly about whatever their elected reps and government are doing (on local, state, and national levels), but they won’t get involved at all. I tell them them have no right to complain if they don’t get involved. It costs nothing and very little time to make your views known on any variety of issues to your elected reps via phone call or email. Not much time to vote. It does take some time to get yourself educated on the issues

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  2. I’ve already planned and have moved full-time to France. I am worried! My biggest worry that whatever free-from-the-EU-government the UK gets will freeze my state pension. I have only a very modest amount of income apart from this. The not knowing is a problem too.

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  3. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I was curious as well, but didn’t feel comfortable asking these questions. Hopes and prayers for you, yours, and all involved.

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  4. Wise words. We are having a huge shake up of our own and frugality is now a necessity in our lives to the extent that we have decided that we will have to move and downsize to have the standard of life we would like in our retirement. We do not want much, we haven’t had a holiday in 7 years, we don’t go out for dinner but we are lucky not to have a mortgage and have a lovely bungalow in Devon with lovely views and in the blink of an eye its all changing. Husband’s job is about to end at 64, we can’t afford to stay here, fuel bills too high as is council tax, quite a drive to a supermarket and savings all gone on our home, so selling and getting a cheaper place is the way to go and potting some money for retirement. We have decided to go over the Cornwall to be nearer my parents who will need support soon and to be somewhere not too big but has all we need and support for our son who has health problems so he really needs to come too and have his own little rented flat near us. The nearest place to my parents that fit’s the bill is Liskeard, we have been there a few times and my sister works there and it has a gym and a pool that my son needs. I understand you are in Cornwall ,my family originally come from there, they were tin miners so we are coming home! We are entering a new chapter and all the stops have to be pulled out but we are lucky that we have the choice and a chance, so many others haven’t and there will be harder times ahead for some people.

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    • I know, on Thursday night, I went to bed in a tolerant rainbow nation of inclusivity, tolerance and diversity and woke up to isolationism…I feel sad for my country and sad for Europe. People were conned into thinking that the NHS and services would have billions more, they are already back pedaling on that promise, especially when people like BoJo and Gove want everything privatized. They believed the spin that 75% of laws are forced on us by the EU and that the Turks are coming to rape our children. Only after the referendum did people start googling ‘what does the EU do?’ Bit late then.

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      • Yup- very late! A catastrophe of a monumental scale- people have no idea what they have done. I have no idea why anyone thought the NHS would have billions more or that every foreign born person would somehow leave the country.

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  5. Of course, you hit the nail on the head. This will not only affect you and the EU. I know it will affect all of us. We Americans as well. We will all be in this together. Blessings for the best outcome for all of us.

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  6. Fab post and sums up my feelings. I am utterly devastated, more so for my children and their future.
    I live near Leicester, as you know they won the premiership and toured the city. What an absolutely fantastic display of multiculturalism. There were young, old, male, females, Leicester coloured turbans and robes. Everyone in fantastic spirits. It was fantastic to see all cultures and nationality and background together and united as one.
    Time will tell but it’s like one big mess with no answers.

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  7. I’m from the Midlands where most people voted “out”. My area was voted the 9th (I think) worst place to live in a recent UK poll. We have high unemployment, high influx of migrants and it’s classed as an area of social deprivation. We’re surrounded by rubbish Labour MPs. I think most people voted “out” as a call for help. We’ll just have to wait and see what changes.

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  8. Thank you for your reasoned post. I admit to being fearful for the future especially for my grandchildren and great nephews who are of mixed heritage. However having listened to some of the comments by young people on some tv programmes has restored my confidence in the future. They are a credit to their parents and their teachers. Hopefully this will make people realise that we need to support and help each other not turn on one another. Thank you again for the example you give and the time you give all of us.

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  9. I am sorry for all the changes ahead for you as a country. My husband and I were discussing this tonight. We don’t understand much of it at all.
    I KNOW OUR COUNTRY IS A MESS RIGHT NOW. It is a scary time when you don’t know what the future holds for you.
    I didn’t mean to put that in caps. Makes it sound like ours is worse. I don’t believe that.

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  10. Our Scottish employee also told us that UK is a nett payer to the EU. An economics professor on the state radio said that actually UK receives more than it gives. I guess the figures could be checked but what is comes down to is that someone is lying. I think it is the politicians 🙂 As a NZer living in Austria – I know how you feel about France. We are all totally shocked in Austria and as a person of IRish descent, we fear the new violence in Northern Ireland. I am glad your job is safe as a teacher. The only good thing is that we can now pay back our daughter’s student loan for the one year she studied in the UK

    The best thing about democracy is that everyone gets a vote. The bad thing about democracy is that everyone gets a vote.

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  11. The city I live in is in a state of shock regarding the vote. I teach undergraduates and many of those I teach are from various countries in Europe and I know that they must all be worried about their future. Many of them wanted to work here in the UK or do further studies when they have completed their degree. School is out at the moment, and so I won’t get to see my students face to face until we return after our summer break, but those who have contacted me over the weekend feel that their career and life here in the UK is in the balance. I feel very sad for them and for us. I watched George Osborne make his statement this morning and I felt he handled the situation well considering how horrendous it must be in Westminster at the moment. It’s going to be a watching and waiting game over the next few weeks.
    We are also concerned about our home in France, we purchased two neighbouring cottages in 2007 and spent the best part of two years renovating them. We only ever employed local workers and we employ people in the village to maintain the cottages and the gardens when they are let to holiday makers. Our lawyer has told us that employing local people to manage the properties is in our favour, but to be honest, that doesn’t make us feel a whole lot better. Our intention was to move to France when we retire and rent out our UK home to university students; we will still hold tightly to that dream, but we have to accept that it might not be the smooth transition into retirement that we had anticipated.

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  12. I work for housing association and we expect to find it harder to build homes, especially, social since the Moodys downgrade. So sadly less social homes and less employments for those who would have built them 😦

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    • There is a huge housing problem in London, but that was not created by the EU or even by the immigrants! There is simply not enough new quality housing being created. In fact EU regulations are great to have as they protect people, one only has to see how unregulated letting and managing agents are milking the system at the expense of the young. There was a petition a while ago and I have to say, I was deeply shocked to see what what was going on.

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  13. I do not even to pretend to understand the ramifications of this vote except to say the result is mind blowing. As a left wing voter (labour) in my country OZ we are having a federal election next Saturday. This result has given our Liberal party (Tories) the edge because of the scaremongering regarding… NHS, Education, Social Security, etc. My only question and reflection is…Where’s the humanity?

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  14. I have lived in France for the last 27 years (and nearly 40 in the local area) and was absolutely stunned by the results (of a vote in which I had no right to participate, despite the fact that it has total bearing on my right to live and work here – go figure). It is going to be a very bumpy ride, not just for the UK but for the rest of the world too. I went to the market in Turin on Saturday. Lots of French go there because it is cheaper than France so they drive over and stock up. Transfer that scenario to Calais/le Havre/Cherbourg – figure out the number of British cars coming over to stock up and then take away that right. Limit the Brits to 200 cigarettes and 2 bottles of wine – what is that going to do for the local French economy. It is going to be complete chaos in so many ways. I spoke to my son tonight and while there is no rush we are both going to ask for French citizenship. France is the only home he has ever known and I have no desire to move back to the UK. Others may not be so lucky and maybe end up having to move back for other reasons. Good Lord – who opened Pandora’s box. Anna

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  15. I think all will be well ….Keep Calm and Carry On. We will always be a tolerant nation. There will always be a few who spoil it for the rest and the media hypes up everything it can. I have lovely friendly Portuguese neighbours nothing has changed between us.
    So what is the worse that can happen …15% interest rates, power cuts, massive redundancies ,three day working weeks or go to war with another country? All those happened in the 1980’s with Margaret Thatcher’s as the PM and guess what ….We were in the EU then and we survived it all.

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